Michelin Pilot sport 4S

[scm]

Guys with the 4 x 4 offroad AWD versions

I think the RWDs are more likely to go off-road!

[Lunar]

I guess the lighter weight of the RWD equates to a lower "rotation" speed down the runway.

...although the bigger surface area of the aileron on the open cockpit version should help

[Dazarooni]

Hi
I have an AWD S running
Front 255 x 35 ZR20 97Y
Rear 295 x 30 ZR20 101Y

I changed all 4 tyres from Pirelli P zeros to Michelin Pilot Sport 4S about a month ago. To be honest I have not really noticed any difference, I didn't have a problem with grip on either tyre. I was hoping the Michelin tyre would be a bit quieter but if they are it's marginal.

As others have said maybe there is more of an effect on RWD cars

Michael

And it's possible some of the folk who rave about the PS4S have just replaced their 2mm P-Zero rear tyres to a fresh pair of PS4S and are somehow amazed by the difference.

[dbv6s]

most people changing tyres are changing from worn tyres to brand new ones. After initial scrub in majority of new half decent tyres would feel like an improvement

Personally, I went from 4 Pzeros, to 4 Michelin PS4S's, I changed because rear tyres were slashed, not because they were worn. I felt like the Michelins were a big improvement, they were cheaper, and I'd always recommend them

Appreciate its sometimes a placebo effect
and just because people are loving the Pzero's doesnt mean they dont think the Michelins are good, chances are they probably havent tried them..

[JurassicF]

Interestingly my neighbour has just changed the tyres on his Porsche 911 from Michelin PS4s to Pirelli P Zeros as he liked the "look" of my Pirellis.
He said they made a huge difference (improvement).
Placebo?

[scm]

Placebo?

Nah, Porsche "driver".

[scharlton]

My car came with P Zero's and they were useless in the wet.

Having just completed a track day at Castle Combe which started wet and dried out by late morning I can confirm that I think the PS4S's are brilliant.

They gripped in the wet with no front wheel loss of traction and the back could be spun out under control with no sudden loss of traction, very progressive.

In the dry they gripped far beyond my bravery and with really enthuastic driving up to 130mph the rears never let go on the exits and the fronts never lost traction into the corners, DSC was in track rather than off.

Overall, really happy, only issue was I could only do 5 lap stints as the brakes got very hot. Even after 45 minute rests you couldn't touch the calipers. Also, in dynamic with the throttle/brake position screen up, I could light all the blue throttle bars up but no matter how hard I hit the brakes, I could only get half the red lights to light up. Has anyone managed to get them all illuminated?

Very impressed with the R on track, blown away though by the project 8 that was also lapping there.

[Tel]

I'd rather have a MPS4 thank a Porsche

Not really - Just jealous!

[Lunar]

I do wonder if the later version of the P Zero is a much improved tyre.

You can tell which one by the difference in tread pattern.

[jono_h]

Mine came with a brand new set of (the old style) P-Zero’s on the rear, and I haven’t had a problem so far.

I think there’s something in the suggestion that the change from worn to new tyres makes a significant difference, whatever the brand.
That said, if I get through these tyres I’d go for MPS4’s.