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Suspension and poor ride comfort

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:50 pm
by Pacemaker1000
Was already to buy and watched Clarksons review and how he slated the very poor ride. This has really put me off,
Has there been any changes/improvements since the original model launch especially the very latest model
Can’t believe Jaguar would continue with the same setup given the bad reviews of what is such a great car

Re: Suspension and poor ride comfort

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:00 pm
by scm
Have you actually driven one? One man's poor ride is another's "perfect but firm".

Re: Suspension and poor ride comfort

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:08 pm
by Pacemaker1000
No not driven yet.
But I even find the standard BMW M Sport cars too firm. Had a metal roof Z4 (non M Sport) with 19s and sold it pretty quickly.

Re: Suspension and poor ride comfort

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:09 pm
by Deleted User 1715
I find the ride really well judged by Jaguar.

Re: Suspension and poor ride comfort

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:11 pm
by CPBLondon
Never had an issue with ride comfort and have driven ‘lower’ cars such as Lotus that will test the adhesive qualities of you fillings. I seem to recall that the review mentioned that the car was designed to be driven at speed and that is where the ride is optimal. I find the vehicle comfortable as a day car and tourer- never tried on a track. I love how the car handles and it is the best car I have ever owned. You might be missing out so have a test drive and frighten the salesman at your local dealer!

Re: Suspension and poor ride comfort

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:12 pm
by Cluck
In all honesty you're going to need to drive one to really know whether it's suitable.

It's firmer than a family hatchback but it's not as firm as the 'comfy' coilovers I had in my previous Nissan 200. I'll be absolutely honest and say I don't really know how to describe the ride comfort level because I don't notice it at all, whether it's in 'Normal' or 'Dynamic'.

Re: Suspension and poor ride comfort

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:24 pm
by Pacemaker1000
Any comparisons with adaptive in comfort compared to standard stock springs?
Some adaptives just make it firmer. ie comfort is same as stock making adaptive redundant of looking form softer ride.

Re: Suspension and poor ride comfort

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:42 pm
by Jaguandy
I have read the SVRs are slightly more comfortable, as are lighter forged wheels (which SVRs have anyway). The suspension is harder than, say a XF, noticeable on poor road surfaces at lower speeds, but not as hard as many sporting cars, as others have said.

Re: Suspension and poor ride comfort

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:49 pm
by scm
In dynamic mode, assuming you have the configurable option, you have the facility to set the suspension to dynamic or normal. In dynamic it firms up nicely but, as noted earlier, one man's firm is another's bone-jarring, so you definitely have to test drive them rather than believe reviewers, who may may be more or less tolerant.

Re: Suspension and poor ride comfort

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:10 am
by BruceTheQuail
OK this is something that I am a bit passionate about so let me ramble on, I do get there in the end.

First, the Jag OEM wheels and tyre combination is not ideal. The wheels are designed for your charming British roads and seem to be made out of cast iron. So they are heavy as buggery, and not conducive to a good ride. Also the stock tyres (P-zeros) are not ideal. Anecdotally, I switched from OEM 19's with P zeros to flow forged 21's with Michelin PSS's and the ride was identical, but handling improved fantastically. I drive it in dynamic most of the time.

Second, it takes quite a while (probably 5000 miles) for the seats to soften up. I have found this in a few jags, the leather stretches and absorbs the bumps. So if you have the car as your daily but your missus (or mister) is an occasional passenger, you will be thinking how great the ride is on a bumpy road while they look at you sourly from the still firm passenger seat. My cure for that is to have my wife drive it from time to time and let my arse take the punishment in the passenger seat. Seat choice helps as well, I'd pay extra for the better ones.

Finally there is the suspension settings. The base has one setting which is harder than the "normal" setting in the cars with adjustable, but not as firm as dynamic. I found it (i.e. the base suspension) was too firm in the new car I test drove on 20's, whether it would improve with the softening of the seat I dont know.

I would try driving a couple with more than 5000 miles on them before making a decision. Pretty much everyone I have driven in mine has commented on how good the ride is, compared to (say) a Porsche.