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Re: Ceramic coating advice?

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:31 pm
by Gom Jabbar
Thanks for the advice - I’m in the Northwest so off to see Cheshire Car Care in Knutsford tomorrow who seem to have a good reputation. Anyone have experience of them?

Re: Ceramic coating advice?

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:41 pm
by Senninha
You’re welcome, hope CCC look after you ... you could also check out them and others on Detailing World website ...

Re: Ceramic coating advice?

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:23 pm
by andrewclarke99
Gom Jabbar let me know how you get on in Knutsford. I am seriously considering getting my 400 Sport done......when it arrives

Re: Ceramic coating advice?

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:41 pm
by daveyc86
I have a Kamikaze ceramic coat - makes keeping the clean a doddle. Happy to recommend my detailer if you're keen. Divine Detail in Surrey.

Re: Ceramic coating advice?

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:54 pm
by Gom Jabbar
Hi Andrew

Yes - will let you know. I met the guy yesterday and he seems very good & genuinely passionate about cars & how to look after them. He has many “millionaire” clients in South Cheshire doing all kinds of exotic brands. I hope to have it done over the next 3-4 weeks.

Steve

Re: Ceramic coating advice?

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:20 pm
by steviegtr
Well everyone is putting in there six peneth but no one has mentioned how much it costs. Watched a detailed revue from a millionaire classic car dealer on youtube & his take was no. A good wax coating be it more regular looks just as good. He also noted that people think that ceramic coating makes the car stonechip proof which he said was also not true. He also stated that to remove for a recoat is quite a detailed job & very expensive. My new 2017 to me car has a shine like sn-t on a garden wall, so all I will do is apply a very good wax. Each to there own I guess.

Re: Ceramic coating advice?

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:53 pm
by Gasman2
I had a freshly painted c63 done and tbh unless u are mega carefull with aftercare u will still get swirling etc and certain coatings can only be wet sanded off
You will still get chips and scratches
Tbh i am in the regular wax camp now as it really is just as good

Re: Ceramic coating advice?

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:22 am
by Senninha
As pointed out above, ceramic coating wont prevent stone chips any better than a good wax. For this you will need a PPF.

The dilemma for me with this is where do you stop chasing the ‘perfect’ finish. My personal view on the PPF is that as a minimum you need a paint correction machine polish; no point trapping swirls etc under the film. For a truly reflective finish, ‘it looks like glass” look, you’re then needing a wet sand and machine polish. So now your paint is as fault free as can be, so to protect this investment in shine, you now apply your chosen PPF (of which there are now several brands). I’ve seen 3 different options and all of them, no matter how professionally applied, do not offer the “as glass” you perhaps chasing as they all leave what can best be described as factory orange peel.

All will make their own choice. On my wife’s white Tiguan I had detail and ceramic done. Car looked great on collection. Remained easier to keep clean over a couple of years but I did top up the shine with G3 wax twice a year. My black daily driver has just been carefully washed and regularly polished and looks great.

steviegtr, to your valid point on costs, my experiences are:

Paint correction detail / std wax @£300
Add ceramic @£150-200
Wet sand will depend on car size, average £2500
PPF for front end £1600, usuall include bumper, bonnet, sills and mirror backs
Full PPF from £3k

I would add that for a keeper or something very special, I can see the merits in a full PPF as not only will it stop chips, the newer self healing variety effectively remove swirls from washing whilst sitting in the sun ... happy days :)

HTH ...

Re: Ceramic coating advice?

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:47 pm
by Ricardo99
I'm planning on going 1st for an allover Gtechniq Cristal Utra coating followed by PPF on the front bumpers & grill (maybe sills too).

Works out at about £1120 total because Gtechnqi insist on an all-over level 1 polish first, even when your driving you car strait from the dealership!

Otherwise would be £300 cheaper.

Re: Ceramic coating advice?

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:48 pm
by scm
Ricardo99 wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:47 pmGtechnqi insist on an all-over level 1 polish first, even when your driving you car strait from the dealership!
Makes sense, the dealership has probably already washed it and put loads of swirls on it. :?